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any pump with a closed loop system could not work if insulin was delivered into the subcutaneous tissues.  it would need to be implanted, so that the insulin could go right into the bloodstream.  then what happens if you get low?  you would need a little glucagon dispenser too, huh?  If it were easy, it would have been done already.  While we wait, we take care of ourselves… dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I don’t know why blood glucose testing technology can not be coupled with an > insulin pump to continuously monitor blood sugar and automatically alloquat > a required amount of insulin as it is needed.  I think there would even be a > cure for our affliction if there was not so much money to be made selling > test strips and insulin.  Look diabetes kills far more people than do breast > cancer and AIDS COMBINED yet dibetes research gets only about 14 percent the > funding http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  Our government (USA) > spends approximately $1,700.00 for each person with breast cancer and AIDS > while only $20.00  is spent for each of us with diabetes > http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  What the hell is going on?  It’s > enough to make one very upset.  It’s time we stopped smiling about our > disease and begin to act up like our brothers and sisters with breast cancer > and AIDS.

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>any pump with a closed loop system could not work if insulin was >delivered into the subcutaneous tissues.  it would need to be implanted, >so that the insulin could go right into the bloodstream.  then what >happens if you get low?  you would need a little glucagon dispenser too, >huh?  If it were easy, it would have been done already.  While we wait, >we take care of ourselves… >dave

no one wants to inject insulin directly into the blood stream.  and a closed loop system doesn’t have to do so or have to be implanted under the skin.  Check out the minimed website for the latest on the closed loop system they are developing. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t know why blood glucose testing technology can not be coupled with an > insulin pump to continuously monitor blood sugar and automatically alloquat > a required amount of insulin as it is needed.  I think there would even be a > cure for our affliction if there was not so much money to be made selling > test strips and insulin.  Look diabetes kills far more people than do breast > cancer and AIDS COMBINED yet dibetes research gets only about 14 percent the > funding http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  Our government (USA) > spends approximately $1,700.00 for each person with breast cancer and AIDS > while only $20.00  is spent for each of us with diabetes > http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  What the hell is going on?  It’s > enough to make one very upset.  It’s time we stopped smiling about our > disease and begin to act up like our brothers and sisters with breast cancer > and AIDS.

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>I don’t know why blood glucose testing technology can not be coupled with an >insulin pump to continuously monitor blood sugar and automatically alloquat >a required amount of insulin as it is needed.  I think there would even be a >cure for our affliction if there was not so much money to be made selling >test strips and insulin.  Look diabetes kills far more people than do breast >cancer and AIDS COMBINED yet dibetes research gets only about 14 percent the >funding http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  Our government (USA) >spends approximately $1,700.00 for each person with breast cancer and AIDS >while only $20.00  is spent for each of us with diabetes >http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  What the hell is going on?  It’s >enough to make one very upset.  It’s time we stopped smiling about our >disease and begin to act up like our brothers and sisters with breast cancer >and AIDS.

we already do. diabetics have been advocating for themselves and fund raising for themselves for many years now. you might also want to go to the minimed website and look up the new tech they are working on to create a closed loop insulin pump. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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I don’t know why blood glucose testing technology can not be coupled with an insulin pump to continuously monitor blood sugar and automatically alloquat a required amount of insulin as it is needed.  I think there would even be a cure for our affliction if there was not so much money to be made selling test strips and insulin.  Look diabetes kills far more people than do breast cancer and AIDS COMBINED yet dibetes research gets only about 14 percent the funding http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  Our government (USA) spends approximately $1,700.00 for each person with breast cancer and AIDS while only $20.00  is spent for each of us with diabetes http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  What the hell is going on?  It’s enough to make one very upset.  It’s time we stopped smiling about our disease and begin to act up like our brothers and sisters with breast cancer and AIDS.

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I have been hoping for a sugar checker and pump combo for a long, long time. I have used the CGM (continuous gloucose monitor), so I know there is a contraption that can continuously check sugars.  And, we all know that pumps exist.  It makes perfect sense to me that the next obvious step is a combination of the two technologies. I have actually been hoping for a device that goes one step further…it would 1) check your sugars, 2) deliver the appropriate amount of insulin, and 3) deliver the appropriate amount of glucose in case of low sugars.  I would be more of an external pancreas than the current pumps. Steph

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t know why blood glucose testing technology can not be coupled with an > insulin pump to continuously monitor blood sugar and automatically alloquat > a required amount of insulin as it is needed.  I think there would even be a > cure for our affliction if there was not so much money to be made selling > test strips and insulin.  Look diabetes kills far more people than do breast > cancer and AIDS COMBINED yet dibetes research gets only about 14 percent the > funding http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  Our government (USA) > spends approximately $1,700.00 for each person with breast cancer and AIDS > while only $20.00  is spent for each of us with diabetes > http://woundcare.org/newsvol3n1/ed7.htm.  What the hell is going on?  It’s > enough to make one very upset.  It’s time we stopped smiling about our > disease and begin to act up like our brothers and sisters with breast cancer > and AIDS.

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Are there NO diabetics as militant as I???  Check out the links in my original post.  I think it’s time we rise up and make some noise.  We need to be as noticable and noticed as or brothers and sisters with cancer, AIDS, etc.

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OK, I did it and I am now using my 17" monitor. I just plugged it in and turned it on. When it got to the DOS screen during boot up it said something about an unknown device click this or that….I guessed and clicked that….when it got to the opening screen it updated my databank for my new hardware. It also made some reference to Plug and Play. It did everything so fast I didn’t get a chance to read what it was doing. Anyway, it works, but I can’t get the color adjusted correctly. It appears too washed out…greys, etc. But it is BIG, BIG, BIG….ahhh….size DOES matter!! <EG> Thank you all for your help! Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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> Anyway, it works, but I can’t get the color adjusted correctly. It > appears too washed out…greys, etc. But it is BIG, BIG, > BIG….ahhh….size DOES matter!! <EG>

If you go to the manufacturer’s website, there may be instructions on how to improve the color.   And of course size matters! Chakolate — If you want to be the center of attention, make tuna salad in front of your cats.

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> But it is BIG, BIG, BIG….ahhh….size DOES matter!! <EG>

You will probably be asked by the spammers for products that grow certain mail members if they may quote you.  ROTFL  BJ

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>You will probably be asked by the spammers for products that grow >certain mail members if they may quote you.  ROTFL  BJ

Sure, they can quote me! Although, deep inside I believe its the motion of the ocean and not the size of the ship. Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >OK, I did it and I am now using my 17" monitor. I just plugged it in >and turned it on. When it got to the DOS screen during boot up it said >something about an unknown device click this or that….I guessed and >clicked that….when it got to the opening screen it updated my >databank for my new hardware. It also made some reference to Plug and >Play. It did everything so fast I didn’t get a chance to read what it >was doing. >Anyway, it works, but I can’t get the color adjusted correctly. It >appears too washed out…greys, etc. But it is BIG, BIG, >BIG….ahhh….size DOES matter!! <EG> >Thank you all for your help! >Dana >"The leading cause of death among fashion models is > falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

17 is big?  wait till you get a 22" monitor and or a video card with a TV jack and plug it into a 27" or bigger screen…. grin, I love my toys. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>17 is big?  wait till you get a 22" monitor and or a video card with a >TV jack and plug it into a 27" or bigger screen…. grin, I love my >toys.

Too bad you misuse them to TROLL around all the time.

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>17 is big?  wait till you get a 22" monitor and or a video card with a >TV jack and plug it into a 27" or bigger screen…. grin, I love my >toys.

Hey, Mack, not fair!   This 17" was a freeby, and I will not be getting another bigger one soon, I am sure. BUT……. When I get my new computer, it will have EVERYTHING new and available on a computer!! (dreaming) LOL. Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>>17 is big?  wait till you get a 22" monitor and or a video card with a >TV jack and plug it into a 27" or bigger screen…. grin, I love my >toys. >Hey, Mack, not fair!   This 17" was a freeby, and I will not be >getting another bigger one soon, I am sure.

That’s good, I just gave three 17s away myself.  and I never pay full price for my toys to begin with. >BUT……. >When I get my new computer, it will have EVERYTHING new and available >on a computer!! (dreaming) LOL.

actually very easy to do.  just figure out how much you can put aside each week and don’t touch it for anything until you have enough to buy the new pc. >Dana >"The leading cause of death among fashion models is > falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>17 is big?  wait till you get a 22" monitor and or a video card with a >TV jack and plug it into a 27" or bigger screen…. grin, I love my >toys. > !   This 17" was a freeby, and I will not be > getting another bigger one soon, I am sure.

ooo no i better not touch this one. > BUT……. > When I get my new computer, it will have EVERYTHING new and available > on a computer!! (dreaming) LOL.

Dana that really depends on what you need the computer for. 2 years ago when i got my last one it was top of the line not really but pretty darn close.  i have made a few upgrades to it since. but i also like to play war games on line and work most of the time with about 6 windows up and working with in those 6 windows.  that is why i have 2 pretty big monitors connected to it now. if you dont really do anything demanding with the computer i bet the cheapest one today would do you fine – yea a lil extra ram is good but you probably wont need more then the recommened amount for the operating system you are using.  i now have about 200 gigs of hard drive space on this bad boy.  well i just opened one of your posts to say.. hello. tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dana > "The leading cause of death among fashion models is >  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>That’s good, I just gave three 17s away myself.  and I never pay full >price for my toys to begin with.

You are a cruel man, rub it in why don’t cha!! >BUT……. >When I get my new computer, it will have EVERYTHING new and available >on a computer!! (dreaming) LOL. >actually very easy to do.  just figure out how much you can put aside >each week and don’t touch it for anything until you have enough to buy >the new pc.

Yes, I am working on it now. I don’t have alot of disposable income to spend on something I already have one of tho… this one needs to go flooey and then….. Dana >Dana >"The leading cause of death among fashion models is > falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~ >Mack >Type 1 since 1975 >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org >http://www.insulin-pumpers.org > In tribute to the United States of America and the State > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism.

"The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>would do you fine – yea a lil extra ram is good but you probably wont need >more then >the recommened amount for the operating system you are using.  i now have >about 200 gigs of hard drive >space on this bad boy.  well i just opened one of your posts to say.. hello. >tom

Hi Tom, Right now, this one has 168megs of RAM, 3 gigs of hard drive. But all I do with it is email and newsgroups and some small graphic work every now and then. So, I am OK with what I have. But you always want something bigger and newer, don’t ya? Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>>That’s good, I just gave three 17s away myself.  and I never pay full >price for my toys to begin with. >You are a cruel man, rub it in why don’t cha!!

yes I’ve been known to add salt and lemon juice to the wounds of the PC deprived…. >>BUT……. >>When I get my new computer, it will have EVERYTHING new and available >>on a computer!! (dreaming) LOL. >actually very easy to do.  just figure out how much you can put aside >each week and don’t touch it for anything until you have enough to buy >the new pc. >Yes, I am working on it now. I don’t have alot of disposable income to >spend on something I already have one of tho… this one needs to go >flooey and then….. >Dana

check to see if there are any computer shows in your area.  this site http://www.marketproshows.com gives show dates for my area and several east coast states.  At these places I can get software like MS Office Pro for less than half the cost of a department store.  Video cards that sell regularly priced at 150.00+ go for less than half the cost most of the time.  It’s where I bought 8 separate 512 mb 2700 ram chips for 30.00 each.  And Norton System Works 2003 for 10.00.  Deals like this are common. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>check to see if there are any computer shows in your area.  this site >http://www.marketproshows.com gives show dates for my area and several >east coast states.  

Hey, thanks, I will check this out. Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>check to see if there are any computer shows in your area.

Damn! You’re good, Mack!! There is a show this weekend in my area, Jax, Fla. Too bad I don’t have money right now, but I may go and just look around anyway. <G> Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>print out the 1.00 off coupon and it will cost you 6.00 to get in.  at >least that is the price here.  I go so often I just by a yearly >membership.

Ok, I will. And while I have your attention (g) may I ask you another pc question please? Hubby also gave me an old Compaq Presario 1000 lap top. I have been trying to defrag and scan disk it, but it won’t do either. Or at least it seems to be taking hours (3) with no progress. Could there be a problem? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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> Hubby also gave me an old Compaq Presario 1000 lap top. I have been > trying to defrag and scan disk it, but it won’t do either. Or at least > it seems to be taking hours (3) with no progress. Could there be a > problem? Am I doing something wrong?

What OS? Try starting it in SAFE mode if W95 or later. There are a lot of "terminate and stay resident" (TSR) programs that can affect scandisk because every time something is saved to the HD scandisk will start over from the beginning. Regards, James

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hubby also gave me an old Compaq Presario 1000 lap top. I have been > trying to defrag and scan disk it, but it won’t do either. Or at least > it seems to be taking hours (3) with no progress. Could there be a > problem? Am I doing something wrong? >What OS? Try starting it in SAFE mode if W95 or later. >There are a lot of "terminate and stay resident" (TSR) programs that can >affect scandisk because every time something is saved to the HD scandisk >will start over from the beginning. >Regards, >James

[snip] Do the following: 1] From the ‘Program Menu’ delete anything resident in the Start Up Folder. [Shortcuts, so there won't be damage] 2] Go into ‘Control Panel’ and then ‘Display. Disable all screen savers [select none] and select the power saving features to ‘Always On’. 3] Check the items on the menu bar ‘Tray’ [to the lower RH corner of the screen] whatever is there right click and select the ‘Disable’ option or tick the box wich causes the program to place an icon in the tray to clear it. The reason for the above is that all of these will be writing to the HDD peridically. Each time there is a read/write the scan disc/defrag will stop and have to start over again since the detail on the HDD will have necessarily changed. Also any power saving mode will operate durring the process so that has to be disabled as well. Having done all that, shut down and restart. After started again and when stable. Press the following keys together as one ‘Ctry + Alt + Del’ just the once only. A box will appear listing all the processes that are running make a note of anything that is running that looks like it is a program. Then stop it running. Now forget the Scandisc its function is specific and not required for your purpose. Select Defrag and the options for rearrange my programs to start faster etc. Set it going and this time it should work. It will take some time depending on the size of the HDD and you may see it stop and start a few times but so long as the screen remains on its ok. Make sure you a hooked to the mains. The Bty won’t last the distance necessarily. HTH Pete

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> Do the following:

<SNIP> A lot of suggestions. Pete, without knowing what OS she’s using, a lot of your suggestions would result in either a frozen laptop or a hard re-boot. (CTL-ALT-DEL under W95 will often simply reboot the machine!) Simplest and safest means of running scandisk is to boot into SAFE mode and run it from there. Regards, James A+, NET+, MCSE (NT-W2K-XP)

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>> Do the following: ><SNIP> A lot of suggestions. >Pete, without knowing what OS she’s using, a lot of your suggestions would >result in either a frozen laptop or a hard re-boot. (CTL-ALT-DEL under W95 >will often simply reboot the machine!)

box – if done once only. To do it three times instigates a >Simplest and safest means of running scandisk is to boot into SAFE mode and >run it from there.

You can run it from the program start menu, a shortcut is listed under System Tools. However, the function of Scan disk is to a] Detect physical damage on the HDD surface [often caused by failing to close windows correctly and there being subsequent vibration to the HDD enought to cause the sensor arm to 'bounce' onto the disc surface. b] Think of the HDD as a filing cabinet like you find in any office. In it there are many drawers and within each drawer are many folders containing many files on a similar topic. Every so often either by neglect or misuse, files get dumped ito the wrong drawer and folder and out of order. When this happens the PC OS cannot find what you are requesting. Scan disk detects misplaced files by reference to the registry and notes those that are not where they should be. Scan disk is invoked after you just turn the power off without closing the OS correctly for this reason. >Regards, >James >A+, NET+, MCSE (NT-W2K-XP)

That may very well be mate but trust me on this. Try it if’n you do not beleive. Safe mode just means only a minimum set of drivers are loaded. There is no need to do this if there is no periphial or connected on board HW problem. Pete

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>What OS? Try starting it in SAFE mode if W95 or later.

Yes, its a Win95 and I have tried to start it in Safe mode but I can’t get it there. This is what I did, tell me if I am doing it right: (instructions from a website) 1. click start, shut down, restart the computer, and then Yes. 2. When the first screen appears as the computer restarts, press the          F8 key repeatedly until the  startup menu opens. 3. Select safe mode. 4. Run ScanDisk from Safe Mode. When I hit the F8 key nothing happens…except the computer shuts off after two or three trys. Is there another way to get to safe mode? Thanks for your help. Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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<snip> > 2. When the first screen appears as the computer restarts, press the >          F8 key repeatedly until the  startup menu opens.

<snip> Instead of F8, use Shift-F8.  If all else fails, reboot the system using your instructions, but hold down the left Shift key from the time the system beeps until you see the DOS prompt.  From there, you will not be in "Windows", but "DOS".  Run "chkdsk /f" first, then reboot again and try the previous suggestions. Steve

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>Instead of F8, use Shift-F8.  If all else fails, reboot the system using your instructions, but >hold down the left Shift key from the time the system beeps until you see the DOS prompt.  From >there, you will not be in "Windows", but "DOS".  Run "chkdsk /f" first, then reboot again and >try the previous suggestions. >Steve

Thanks, Steve….I’ll go try it now. Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->print out the 1.00 off coupon and it will cost you 6.00 to get in.  at >least that is the price here.  I go so often I just by a yearly >membership. >Ok, I will. And while I have your attention (g) may I ask you another >pc question please? >Hubby also gave me an old Compaq Presario 1000 lap top. I have been >trying to defrag and scan disk it, but it won’t do either. Or at least >it seems to be taking hours (3) with no progress. Could there be a >problem? Am I doing something wrong? >Thanks, >Dana

may have locked up. may have damage.  even if the laptop was never dropped or bounced or bumped the drive as all drives will, will eventually wear out and need to be replaced.  norton utilities does just as good a job as the built in windows utilities.  Have you tried that?  Personally, I wouldn’t use any PC built by comcrap. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>>Hubby also gave me an old Compaq Presario 1000 lap top. I have been >trying to defrag and scan disk it, but it won’t do either. Or at least >it seems to be taking hours (3) with no progress. Could there be a >problem? Am I doing something wrong? >Thanks, >Dana > may have locked up. may have damage.  even if the laptop was never > dropped or bounced or bumped the drive as all drives will, will > eventually wear out and need to be replaced.  norton utilities does > just as good a job as the built in windows utilities.  Have you tried > that?  Personally, I wouldn’t use any PC built by comcrap.

Are you trying to do scan disk while the OS is running? It will keep restarting because files are changing. Run scan disk before startup. If there is too little space on a drive defrag cannot be successful. — Ronnie Ruff So shines a good deed in a weary world.                        –Willy Wonka– I pray for the power. To turn it around. I’m too old to die young. And too young to die now.           Warren Zevon 1980 http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc

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>Are you trying to do scan disk while the OS is running? It will keep >restarting because files are changing. Run scan disk before startup. If >there is too little space on a drive defrag cannot be successful.

OK, I did what Steve suggested and whalaa, I got to the SafeMode somehow. I know that’s not what I was supposed to end up with, but I did. Anyway, I did scandisk and defrag from safemode and its running a little faster. The hard drive is virtually empty, it was cleared by Hubby’s company before giving it to him. Not alot has been added, so I can download a few things. Thank you all for your help. Dana "The leading cause of death among fashion models is  falling through street grates."  ~Dave Barry~

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>My Endo is putting me on the pump after 23 years of taking shots, my >question is, he is recommending the MiniMed Paradigm 512. >I would like to know is this one good or are there better ones, I do not >know anything about any of them, so I need all the help I could get. >Thanks in advance to everyone!

first for the greatest number of responses from actual pumpers you should go to http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  which is an online community of pumpers and it also links to all pump maker’s web sites. regardless of what any literature may claim, don’t take any pump in the water. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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My Endo is putting me on the pump after 23 years of taking shots, my question is, he is recommending the MiniMed Paradigm 512. I would like to know is this one good or are there better ones, I do not know anything about any of them, so I need all the help I could get. Thanks in advance to everyone!

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Check out http://www.insulin-pumpers.org/ and read up on the different pump features, also read up on some of the problems some of the pumps are having. My 13 year old has been pumping since Feb. and she loves it. It is easier to correct any highs and for the most part she is allot more stable. It has also given her the freedom to eat a bit more if she is hungry or to not eat if she is not hungry. Heather http://www.execulink.com/~craig/diabetictag.html http://www.execulink.com/~craig/pouches.htm

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Joe,   I got my minimed 508 insulin pump, in March of this year…the reason: I have a need for bigger am’ts of insulin, and the 508 has that capacity.  I don’t know alot about the 512, so may be someone will chime in and give you somemore info.  The pump has been a blessing for me, and my control of the Type I, I wish I had done this alot sooner….but on injections for over 48 yrs….good luck with your choice.      Mic Always, be, and stay AWARE!

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I’m sure you noticed the thread I started about the fiasco with the Paradigm pump NOT being water resistant?  Anyway my wife has one, and I’ve been on a MiniMed pump since 1996.  The pump has revolutionized my life.  No more HbA1c’s of around 9 to 11.  No more 3AM bg’s over 300 or under 40.  Now I can exercise and eat when I want.  I can fall asleep in the middle of the day or sleep in once in a while without getting severely hypo.  My A1c’s are now around 6.  Pumping quick acting insulin makes it much easier to predict than taking some Regular, and some Lente or Ultralente or NPH. We both use Humalog in our pumps.  I have the 508 and she has the Paradigm.  I can’t conceive of NOT having a pump.  I begged my stupid endo for years for a pump and he kept nixing it.  So I changed Dr’s and got my first pump about 5 weeks after my first visit. Smartest thing I ever did! dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My Endo is putting me on the pump after 23 years of taking shots, my > question is, he is recommending the MiniMed Paradigm 512. > I would like to know is this one good or are there better ones, I do not > know anything about any of them, so I need all the help I could get. > Thanks in advance to everyone!

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I thnk Alan was eating the mars bar because he was less in the fifties. I hope he is not making a habit of it Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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Yes. — Cheri

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Anyone else getting this? >kaci

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I am receiving those kind too and also my email is doing the same. I got letters today sent yesterday but with today’s date. Di

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone else getting this? > kaci > >> I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > >> meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of > >> me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > >> still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating > >> a Mars bar, catch you all later. > >> — > >> Alan > >Keep eating them mars bars and you will not make it to 3 years old. > 2 things about the post you are replying too, 1. it was tongue in > cheek. 2, it was old, check the date it was originally posted. > Mack > Type 1 since 1975 > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org > http://www.insulin-pumpers.org >  In tribute to the United States of America and the State >  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife > and >  terrorism.

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Anyone else getting this? kaci

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the >> meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of >> me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am >> still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating >> a Mars bar, catch you all later. >> — >> Alan >Keep eating them mars bars and you will not make it to 3 years old. > 2 things about the post you are replying too, 1. it was tongue in > cheek. 2, it was old, check the date it was originally posted. > Mack > Type 1 since 1975 > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org > http://www.insulin-pumpers.org >  In tribute to the United States of America and the State >  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and >  terrorism.

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> what does eat to the meter mean? does it mean eat something and use the > meter to see if your blood sugar is ok? does that mean the food is > healthy? or that i can eat it again?

Did you wake up or return from the dead?

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Just dont eat the meter LOL tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of > me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating > a Mars bar, catch you all later.

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> I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of > me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating > a Mars bar, catch you all later. > — > Alan

Keep eating them mars bars and you will not make it to 3 years old.

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>> I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of > me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating > a Mars bar, catch you all later. > — > Alan >Keep eating them mars bars and you will not make it to 3 years old.

2 things about the post you are replying too, 1. it was tongue in cheek. 2, it was old, check the date it was originally posted. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>lol yea i never understood that eat to the meter thing either. >i would rather go to a dietitian and work out a diet that is healthy >then use the meter to see if it is working. >i had a 160 carb meal at burger kind one time and according to my >meter i could have eaten more. >what does eat to the meter mean? does it mean eat something and use the meter >to see if your blood sugar is ok? does that mean the food is healthy? or that i can eat it again? >is a 160 carb meal at burger king healthy because my blood sugar didn’t go above 130? >i think it was 130 or 126 and i tested upto 4 hours after that meal. on the 4th hour it was on its way down again.

Okay Shadow, I’ll cut the jokes. This is serious stuff to me and I can’t work out if you’re being ironic or not. Some people here get evangelistic about herbs or sweeteners or iron etc. and become a pain in the ass. I try not to get evangelistic, but I fail (and probably have also becoma a PITA), because I strongly believe that the single most important thing I learnt here was Jennifer’s advice. That’s because I am attempting control with diet and exercise only – no meds except Lipitor. Therefore, my experience may not apply if you are using meds or insulin to mask the effect of extra carbs. When I followed a dietitians advice I was testing over 10 (180) at breakfast and over 9 (150) for most other meals, even though I lost weight. I could improve that by eating extra fat – the pizza effect. I notice you are 264 from 330. That’s terrific news, but have you considered that the weight loss may be one of the most important factors in your reduced (and excellent) A1C? Such a significant weight loss can have all sorts of effects which can continue for a long time after the loss stabilises. I presume you will be continuing to reduce – good luck, keep it up. I started at 117 Kg (257 lbs) in May 02 with an A1C of 8.2. I lost 28 Kg (60 lbs) and dropped A1C to 6.2 in twelve months. I am having difficulty getting into the 5% club because my A1C has stabilised now that my weight loss has stopped, but I will get there because I am constantly modifying my diet as I "eat by the meter".   Unfortunately, my body is slowly changing too; without the meter I wouldn’t be aware of those changes. This is too long already – but to some of us – eating by the meter is a way of (long) life. Cheers Alan, T2, Oz

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sorry but i don’t defend my post if any newbie has a question about something i said – they should ask their doctor. — http://www.diabetes.org Shadow-Spirit 39 – Male – Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 330lbs now 264 A1C = 5.1 July 15

: : >lol yea i never understood that eat to the meter thing either. : >i would rather go to a dietitian and work out a diet that is healthy : >then use the meter to see if it is working. : >i had a 160 carb meal at burger kind one time and according to my : >meter i could have eaten more. : >what does eat to the meter mean? does it mean eat something and use the meter : >to see if your blood sugar is ok? does that mean the food is healthy? or that i can eat it again? : >is a 160 carb meal at burger king healthy because my blood sugar didn’t go above 130? : >i think it was 130 or 126 and i tested upto 4 hours after that meal. on the 4th hour it was on its way down again. : : Okay Shadow, I’ll cut the jokes. This is serious stuff to me and I : can’t work out if you’re being ironic or not. : Some people here get evangelistic about herbs or sweeteners or iron : etc. and become a pain in the ass. : I try not to get evangelistic, but I fail (and probably have also : becoma a PITA), because I strongly believe that the single most : important thing I learnt here was Jennifer’s advice. : That’s because I am attempting control with diet and exercise only – : no meds except Lipitor. Therefore, my experience may not apply if you : are using meds or insulin to mask the effect of extra carbs. : When I followed a dietitians advice I was testing over 10 (180) at : breakfast and over 9 (150) for most other meals, even though I lost : weight. I could improve that by eating extra fat – the pizza effect. : : I notice you are 264 from 330. That’s terrific news, but have you : considered that the weight loss may be one of the most important : factors in your reduced (and excellent) A1C? Such a significant weight : loss can have all sorts of effects which can continue for a long time : after the loss stabilises. I presume you will be continuing to reduce : – good luck, keep it up. : : I started at 117 Kg (257 lbs) in May 02 with an A1C of 8.2. I lost 28 : Kg (60 lbs) and dropped A1C to 6.2 in twelve months. I am having : difficulty getting into the 5% club because my A1C has stabilised now : that my weight loss has stopped, but I will get there because I am : constantly modifying my diet as I "eat by the meter". : Unfortunately, my body is slowly changing too; without the meter I : wouldn’t be aware of those changes. : : This is too long already – but to some of us – eating by the meter is : a way of (long) life. : : Cheers Alan, T2, Oz :

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>I have rambled so far OT it’s got around to time to do my one-hour >after breakfast. A single scrambled egg with a little milk, cheese and >100g of tinned salmon; should give me between 5.8 and 6.2. Maybe that >means I’m back on topic?

Postscript:    6.5 (117) – a little less milk in the scrambled eggs next time, but lots better than those early days in the 10s before I started "eating by the meter". Cheers Alan, T2, Oz

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>I didn’t know you were in Melbourne. >Hello from another Ozzie. >Annette > HI Annette. > Now in Pottsville, between Byron Bay and Tweed Heads/Coolangatta, > watching the Ospreys catch fish in my creek as I type.

Hi again, Alan, I’m a lot geographically closer to you than I thought!  In a little town that is located in the Warrumbungles, called Coonabarabran – try saying *that* fast!  Let alone  writing it down.   Guaranteed to crack US citizens up. One of them reckons I live in Coolabaraburramurrawollagollasomething. The moon has been full this week, and I hear the willie wagtales singing all night. The magpies sing in the mornings, and are figuring out how to "get" me.  They must have a nest nearby. Spring is just wonderful this year, after the rain. > Joined the RAAF from NSW to see the world and become an engineer in > ‘64, and they sent me to Melbourne for 14 years and Canberra for six. > Then I drove cabs in Melbourne for 17 more.

LOL, so you’ve seen all you ever want to see? What is it about engineers and asd? We seem to have a disproportionate number of them in this group. Is it because they tend to be sedentary, carb loving types, and a larger proportion get T2, or is it because most engineers love computers?  I’ll be generous and say it’s the second. Still, sitting at a computer is not exactly physically demanding. > From memory there is a "Pizza by the meter" shop in Lygon Street and > another in Warrigal Rd Ashburton. > I remember an English TV comedy about bespoke tailors from the ’60s > called "never mind the quality – feel the width!".  These pizzas are > like that.

Most pizzas are.  I could never understand the american obsession with this fruit.  I’d rather have a  baked leg of lamb with baked veges any day. Well, steamed veges, these days. And lamb is now a luxury rather than a staple. > I have rambled so far OT it’s got around to time to do my one-hour > after breakfast. A single scrambled egg with a little milk, cheese and > 100g of tinned salmon; should give me between 5.8 and 6.2. Maybe that > means I’m back on topic?

Well, taking care of business anyway.  :-) Sounds like a good brekky to me too.  I think I can cook eggs in just about every variation known to man (and woman). > Cheers Alan, T2, Oz

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lol yea i never understood that eat to the meter thing either. i would rather go to a dietitian and work out a diet that is healthy then use the meter to see if it is working. i had a 160 carb meal at burger kind one time and according to my meter i could have eaten more. what does eat to the meter mean? does it mean eat something and use the meter to see if your blood sugar is ok? does that mean the food is healthy? or that i can eat it again? is a 160 carb meal at burger king healthy because my blood sugar didn’t go above 130? i think it was 130 or 126 and i tested upto 4 hours after that meal. on the 4th hour it was on its way down again. — http://www.diabetes.org Shadow-Spirit 39 – Male – Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 330lbs now 264 A1C = 5.1 July 15

: I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the : meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of : me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am : still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating : a Mars bar, catch you all later. : : — : Alan :

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Alan, that is so hysterical. thanks for the laugh. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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>I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the >meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of >me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am >still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating >a Mars bar, catch you all later.

There’s a shop in Melbourne that sells "Pizza by the meter" – maybe that’s what they meant? Cheers Alan

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> Or eat the yard.  Been considering getting a goat to eat the > yard.  If that don’t work out maybe I’ll just eat the goat. > I could go for some BBQ’d cabrito.

Sounds good, be sure to send and invite…. BJ

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>I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the >meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of >me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am >still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating >a Mars bar, catch you all later. > There’s a shop in Melbourne that sells "Pizza by the meter" – maybe > that’s what they meant? > Cheers Alan

I didn’t know you were in Melbourne. Hello from another Ozzie. Annette — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > >meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of > >me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > >still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating > >a Mars bar, catch you all later. > There’s a shop in Melbourne that sells "Pizza by the meter" – >maybe > that’s what they meant? > Cheers Alan >I didn’t know you were in Melbourne. >Hello from another Ozzie. >Annette

HI Annette. Now in Pottsville, between Byron Bay and Tweed Heads/Coolangatta, watching the Ospreys catch fish in my creek as I type. Joined the RAAF from NSW to see the world and become an engineer in ‘64, and they sent me to Melbourne for 14 years and Canberra for six. Then I drove cabs in Melbourne for 17 more. From memory there is a "Pizza by the meter" shop in Lygon Street and another in Warrigal Rd Ashburton. I remember an English TV comedy about bespoke tailors from the ’60s called "never mind the quality – feel the width!".  These pizzas are like that. I have rambled so far OT it’s got around to time to do my one-hour after breakfast. A single scrambled egg with a little milk, cheese and 100g of tinned salmon; should give me between 5.8 and 6.2. Maybe that means I’m back on topic? Cheers Alan, T2, Oz

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front > of > me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and > eating > a Mars bar, catch you all later. > No, no, that’s eat *to* the meter.  Or drink to the meter, if > you prefer. Raise your glass (or fork) and proclaim, "To the > meter!"  All with you reply "hear hear!"  Then eat or drink. > Fool proof road to health.

Guess it is all okay, as long as you don’t eat the meter!  :-) BJ

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>I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the >meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of >me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am >still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating >a Mars bar, catch you all later.

Send me a piece of the candy bar.   There is a serious component to "eat by the meter".    It is a tool to find ut how to eat and to not have the damaging high blood sugars.  I know of no other way. It a shame that a single test is so expensive that it limits the amount of testing some people can do. I am old fart that has been at this game tens of years.  I was always some what careful.   However I was not serious enough.  Guess what, I have paid the bill big time. The time to get serious about diabetes is before it has ruined your life. It is not putting on a show but to learn the basics and find out how you respond. A full Mars candy bar would send my blood sugar to around 400.  So just give me a tiny bite.                                       Guy

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Or eat the yard.  Been considering getting a goat to eat the yard.  If that don’t work out maybe I’ll just eat the goat. I could go for some BBQ’d cabrito. — Regards, Clark in Round Rock Texas USA http://xld.com – Freedom’s Home Page http://xld.com/public/xldata/net.htm – ISP Service God Bless America and her friends! > Guess it is all okay, as long as you don’t eat the meter!  :-) BJ

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>I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the >meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of >me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am >still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating >a Mars bar, catch you all later.

No, no, that’s eat *to* the meter.  Or drink to the meter, if you prefer.   Raise your glass (or fork) and proclaim, "To the meter!"  All with you reply "hear hear!"  Then eat or drink. Fool proof road to health.   Priscilla

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I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating a Mars bar, catch you all later. — Alan

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Hah! That’s actually pretty funny for a Brit. — t2_lurking geabbottATabbottandabbottDOTcom Do not mail to t2_lurking (auto-delete)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have read on here a few times that you should eat by the > meter. Well I have tried that, I have had the meter in front of > me, to the left and to the right of me at meal times and I am > still a diabetic, so that does not work. I am 2.8 now and eating > a Mars bar, catch you all later. > — > Alan

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I use several "servings" of saccharin in my yogurt. I don’t know how much sugar-equivalence it is, but I vaguely remember using 2-3 Tablespoons when I used Real Sugar. I’d do the same no matter which sweetener I used; I just like the Sweet & Lo because it’s NOT bulky and I can mix it in right in the little container without making a mess. Even easier than Real Sugar! bj

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> One question, who is using four packets of equal or splenda at one time, > Four packets of splenda I believe equals eight spoons of sugar and no > one is doing that.

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The issue of most sweeteners is the taste much more sweet than sugar so you use in very small quantities.  Some are filled with other items to make them more palatable.   You would have to consume gross amount of a soft drink to get any appreciable amount. I suspect you get more of the "scary components" in our ordinary diet. I suspect the whole issue is another flying saucer.  I worked with a fellow that spent much time trying to prove flying saucers.  He was buried in a local cemetery with no abnormal incidents.  Want a real scare– look at what comes out of your water tap.  . The calories is not significant in my diet.  Lost in the noise.                                            Guy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I use several "servings" of saccharin in my yogurt. I don’t know how much >sugar-equivalence it is, but I vaguely remember using 2-3 Tablespoons when I >used Real Sugar. >I’d do the same no matter which sweetener I used; I just like the Sweet & Lo >because it’s NOT bulky and I can mix it in right in the little container >without making a mess. Even easier than Real Sugar! >bj > One question, who is using four packets of equal or splenda at one time, > Four packets of splenda I believe equals eight spoons of sugar and no > one is doing that.

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Just to follow-up — I got some packet Splenda, and it does also contain maltextrin. — T2 – HbA1c: 5.3% http://www.bollar.org/diabetes.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Certainly the bulk versions of Splenda & Equal contain dextrose to add bulk, > but I didn’t think the packet versions did.  This is worth more research.

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This observation comes around about once every two months. Sucralose (spelled right?) is the sweet component of Splenda. Sucralose is 600 times sweeter than sugar. If sucralose became available for the general public, people would probably start complaining that it was too sweet and unusable in its raw form. The maltodextrin and other components used in Splenda are there to make sucarose pourable and measurable. There’s no conspiracy here…no one’s trying to sabotage your weight reduction efforts. If you can come up with another inert ingredient that is tasteless, without carbs or calories and pourable and measureable, call the folks at Splenda and let them know. As for Splenda’s use in breads, pastries, etc—the amount of contributing total carbs in an individual serving of any cake made with Splenda, for instance, is very small. If you eat a whole cake made with Splenda, that would be a problem and not because of the manufacturer of Splenda. Of course, if you’re trying to follow an eating and drinking lifestyle of moderation, that occurence would never come up, would it? Bob Skilnik Moderation, Not Deprivation Get The Carb Count Of 575 Beers, 250 Wines www.drinkbeergetthindiet.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> NY Times >    September 9, 2003 >       Q & A >    Counting Calories >       By C. CLAIBORNE RAY >       Q. Some artificial sweeteners state on the label that they contain >       zero calories, yet many contain about a gram of dextrose, a sugar. So >       how can the label state that there are no calories when one gram of >       dextrose yields four calories? >       A. "When it comes to these artificial sweeteners, the calorie count is >       an artificial definition," said Dr. Sheldon S. Hendler, co-editor of >       the PDR for Nutritional Supplements, which is considered the standard >       reference book in the field. >       "If a product for example Equal or Splenda contains less than five >       calories per serving, the Food and Drug Administration allows the >       label to state that it contains zero calories," Dr. Hendler explained. >       "Actually, Splenda and Equal both contain one gram of dextrose, or >       four calories per serving, and so four packets would be equivalent in >       caloric value to one teaspoonful of sugar." >       "However," Dr. Hendler continued, "most people typically only use one >       to two packets of an artificial sweetener at a given time, so the >       sugar really is unlikely to cause any problems with diabetics, unless >       they use a really excessive amount of such a sweetener." >    .

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>One question, who is using four packets of equal or splenda at one time, >Four packets of splenda I believe equals eight spoons of sugar and no >one is doing that. >Loretta

no, four packets of splenda may equal the sweetness of 8 teaspoons of sugar but only contain 4 grams of carbs total.  That’s 1 gram of carb per packer which is the same as sweet-n-low, equal and all the others you buy in that form. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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I had the same thought, then thought of those folk who use it to replace sugar in baking and making sweet deserts, for which they buy it in bulk by weight and not in a packet. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->One question, who is using four packets of equal or splenda at one time, >Four packets of splenda I believe equals eight spoons of sugar and no >one is doing that. >Loretta >– >In tribute to the United States of America and the State >of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and >terrorism.

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One question, who is using four packets of equal or splenda at one time, Four packets of splenda I believe equals eight spoons of sugar and no one is doing that. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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I used to use five packets at a time once a day in my tea, but now for some reason I can’t stand the after taste of Splenda, so I don’t use it anymore. I’ve learned to drink my tea with a TBS of cream in it once a day instead. — Cheri

One question, who is using four packets of equal or splenda at one time, Four packets of splenda I believe equals eight spoons of sugar and no one is doing that. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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Certainly the bulk versions of Splenda & Equal contain dextrose to add bulk, but I didn’t think the packet versions did.  This is worth more research. — T2 – HbA1c: 5.3% http://www.bollar.org/diabetes.htm

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NY Times    September 9, 2003       Q & A    Counting Calories       By C. CLAIBORNE RAY       Q. Some artificial sweeteners state on the label that they contain       zero calories, yet many contain about a gram of dextrose, a sugar. So       how can the label state that there are no calories when one gram of       dextrose yields four calories?       A. "When it comes to these artificial sweeteners, the calorie count is       an artificial definition," said Dr. Sheldon S. Hendler, co-editor of       the PDR for Nutritional Supplements, which is considered the standard       reference book in the field.       "If a product for example Equal or Splenda contains less than five       calories per serving, the Food and Drug Administration allows the       label to state that it contains zero calories," Dr. Hendler explained.       "Actually, Splenda and Equal both contain one gram of dextrose, or       four calories per serving, and so four packets would be equivalent in       caloric value to one teaspoonful of sugar."       "However," Dr. Hendler continued, "most people typically only use one       to two packets of an artificial sweetener at a given time, so the       sugar really is unlikely to cause any problems with diabetics, unless       they use a really excessive amount of such a sweetener."    .

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I find reading for more that a few minutes very difficult because of a developing cataract in one eye. It don’t bother me much except when reading. I have collected almost 100 mp3 audio books from the alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.audiobooks newsgroup and several other audiobooks newsgroups. Anyone with a reading problem should check them out. TerryR

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’d much rather be able to read a book than listen to it. These days > I am forced to do both thanks to diabetes.  I’ve stepped on a few toes > in last few weeks when trying to listen to some books because it > always seems to be the same time that everyone wants to start talking > and calling.  The best audio books are created via MP3 and a narrator. > My car stereo plays mp3 CDs and automatically bookmarks the file > exactly where it stops when I cut the engine off.  Rio and Archoss > have cost effective mp3 players that can book mark files as well.  I > haven’t tried any of the other portables.  Book length text to speech > files are very difficult to follow as the machine voices are never as > good as a human voice.  But they do make participating in IRC a whole > lot easier and for small documents or web pages they are okay. > Mack > Type 1 since 1975 > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org > http://www.insulin-pumpers.org >  In tribute to the United States of America and the State >  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and >  terrorism.

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I’m glad this question was asked.I’ve noticed lately that I need to turn the lamp on earlier each evening (in fact it’s on now and it’s only 8:40 am) something I never needed before.

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G’day G’day Allan,   You might like to consider another approach.  Save the eyesight for admiring friends, family and paintings.  Buy a scanner that converts text to speech. Best wishes, — Quentin Grady       ^  ^  / New Zealand,       >#,#< [                     / /     "… and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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>This post not CC’d by email >As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp. >G’day G’day Allan, >  You might like to consider another approach.  Save the eyesight for >admiring friends, family and paintings.  Buy a scanner that converts >text to speech. >Best wishes,

I’d much rather be able to read a book than listen to it.  These days I am forced to do both thanks to diabetes.  I’ve stepped on a few toes in last few weeks when trying to listen to some books because it always seems to be the same time that everyone wants to start talking and calling.  The best audio books are created via MP3 and a narrator. My car stereo plays mp3 CDs and automatically bookmarks the file exactly where it stops when I cut the engine off.  Rio and Archoss have cost effective mp3 players that can book mark files as well.  I haven’t tried any of the other portables.  Book length text to speech files are very difficult to follow as the machine voices are never as good as a human voice.  But they do make participating in IRC a whole lot easier and for small documents or web pages they are okay. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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This post not CC’d by email >As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp.

G’day G’day Allan,     When marking exam papers I found a lamp with a quartz halogen bulb worked well.  Some students would write in pencil and their scripts were almost impossible to read using ordinary incandescent lamps. The quartz halogen lamps I have seen are desk lamps with a small low voltage output transformer in the base. They have two brightness levels. Best wishes, — Quentin Grady       ^  ^  / New Zealand,       >#,#< [                     / /     "… and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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I agree about a halogen lamp.  Your local Braille institute will give you information on how to obtain one that is not too expensive.   Mine is a table lamp with an arm that can be extended for closer work if necessary.  I highly recommend you look at this. " – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp.  Does > anyone know about the sun lamps being advertised. Or where to get a > good reading lamp.  Floor model probably. > I find halogen works really well, and also I have this expensive ($200) > lamp with bulbs that run around $30 each (with shipping) > microsun.com will have the details (I love the light from it)

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>As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp.  Does >anyone know about the sun lamps being advertised. Or where to get a >good reading lamp.  Floor model probably.

Hi, I hear that OTT lites are really good… Here’s thier web site so you can take a look for yourself. http://www.ott-lite.com/ Ruthie Up here in Michigan. Type 2, Avandamet/Lantus insulin. @—>—– Friends multiply joy and divide sorrow! and……. Seen on a sign in rural Ohio…."Happiness is an Inside Job!"

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Allan, Call a needlepoint or needlework shop.  Some of them carry floor models designed for good light.  (You can also get them with a large, good quality magnifier.)  I think the floor models run around $300.00. Good luck. Steph

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> As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp.  Does > anyone know about the sun lamps being advertised. Or where to get a > good reading lamp.  Floor model probably.

I find halogen works really well, and also I have this expensive ($200) lamp with bulbs that run around $30 each (with shipping) microsun.com will have the details (I love the light from it) — Dragon Mom started at size 28W, today wearing 18W, goal 16W started low carb Sept. 2000. 5′6" Female, age 52

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I think you might be talking about full spectrum lighting.  I have not heard of it for reading but I have cekling fixtures with full spectrum in my studio and they help a little with my SAD. — c website  http://www.plazaearth.com/philo

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> As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp.  Does > anyone know about the sun lamps being advertised. Or where to get a > good reading lamp.  Floor model probably.

Sun lamp?  I hope that’s not what you mean.  You have to keep your eyes covered when you use one of those.  And they’re not too great for your skin either.  There is something called a Chromalux or full spectrum lightbulb that is supposed to be good for people who suffer from SAD and they’re also supposed to have light that is closer to that of natural light, like from the sun.  They’re expensive and I’ve never tried them.  My personal choice for lightbulbs are 60W soft pink.  I don’t have trouble reading though. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

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I was having a lot of eye strain when reading for long periods. I got a Verukux Happy Eyes Floor lamp. It greatly reduced eye strain and increases the contrast of the page without glare. It has a natural daylight spectrum fluorescent bulb. I since got another one, a desk model, for my desk. Andrea2

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As my eyes get worse, I was looking for a good reading lamp.  Does anyone know about the sun lamps being advertised. Or where to get a good reading lamp.  Floor model probably.

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Just received this letter from MiniMed regarding leaking Paradigm pumps.   I called their tech support line this morning for more information. The gal manning the hotline said that they had no specific information about the leaks, such as it being a problem with the O-rings.  She "offered" to sell me a Sport Guard for 1/2 off the regular price!  Can you believe that!! They advertise this pump to be water resistant for swimming and bathing, and now they want to sell a bulky, additional cost item to provide the water resistant functionality.  That’s a kick in the teeth for a product that sells for about $6k. Does anyone have any further info regarding this?  I’m sure there will be a class action suit in the near future…  I wonder if the FDA is aware of this fiasco? dave Here is the letter from MiniMed: " Re: Information Regarding Use of Paradigm 511 and 512 Insulin Pumps in Water   Dear Paradigm Insulin Infusion Pump User:   As part of Medtronic MiniMed’s ongoing quality improvement process, we continually monitor product performance in order to provide the best possible experience for our customers. This summer, as more people are participating in water activities, we are seeing an increased incidence of Paradigm pumps turning off due to water entering the pump. In addition, some pumps are unable to detect the reservoir during priming as a result of water ingress. We are therefore recommending that you do not submerge your Paradigm Model 511 or Model 512 insulin pump in water.   We do realize that pumps get wet from time to time. To that end, you can feel comfortable that your Paradigm pump can be splashed or briefly dunked in water. However, we recommend against submerging your Paradigm pump for swimming and other water activities. Should you inadvertently submerge your Paradigm pump in water, please dry the pump and verify it is working properly by selecting "self test" from the pump’s utility menu. If the pump turns off due to water damage, this will be apparent to you because the pump’s screen will go blank and the pump will not respond to button presses. Should this occur, please check your blood glucose, treat any high blood glucose with an injection, and contact us.   In addition, since water entering the pump may affect the Paradigm pump’s ability to detect the reservoir during priming, we are reminding you to always disconnect the infusion set from your body when priming your pump. Do not reattach to the pump until the priming function has been fully completed. As always, refer to your pump’s Instructions for Use to ensure you are following our guidelines for safe and effective diabetes care.   The Paradigm pump is specifically designed to keep users safe by preventing unintended insulin delivery in the event the pump malfunctions, including malfunctions due to water entering the pump. In the event you experience any water-related or other difficulty with your pump, please call our 24-Hour Help line at 1-800-MINIMED (1-800-646-4633) for further assistance. Our customer service team is here to assist you around the clock, every day, throughout the year.   We understand that many pump users do not submerge their pumps in water and may not be affected by this concern. We also recognize that for other users, water tightness is an important feature and this news may be disappointing. We truly apologize for any difficulty this may pose, but your diabetes care is our primary concern.   With a 20-year history in insulin pump therapy, our top priorities are always customer safety and product quality. We take your trust in us very seriously and are always committed to keeping you informed of product developments as they unfold.   Sincerely,   Jeffery A. McCaulley   Vice President and General Manager   Medtronic MiniMed "

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I just got the OOPS, WERE SORRY, letter! Ive worn it many times swiming and in the tub! The water tight integrity was one of my major considerations in selecting this product! Im very upset to learn, I can no longer use the product as was advertised! I dont know what I’ll do, but for sure will send a letter to this VP and say OOPS, I WONT ACCEPT THIS ! Dan

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I think they will be bombarded by unhappy customers.  They sure aren’t handling the situation very well.  I was flabbergasted when they suggested I buy a Sport Guard from them! dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I just got the OOPS, WERE SORRY, letter! Ive worn it many times swiming and > in the tub! The water tight integrity was one of my major considerations in > selecting this product! Im very upset to learn, I can no longer use the > product as was advertised! I dont know what I’ll do, but for sure will send > a letter to this VP and say OOPS, I WONT ACCEPT THIS ! Dan

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Dave, FWIW, we never recommended people to swim with their pumps on. Including the Disetronic, Animas and Paradigm. Just think about it….are you going to expose your $6k precision instrument to salt water, sand, chlorine, and whatever muck is in the water?  That same instrument that your glucose control depends upon ? Plus the infusion sets are much more susceptible to coming off, since the stress and torque on the tubing lifts the backing up. If you are serious about swimming, you need to take the pump off, and secure the site with some Tegaderm.  For hot tubs, the heat of the water is an issue as well, and you can just about expect the infusion set to fall off. At this point, Animas is approved for swimming up to a depth of 12.7 feet, but only if you change your O-rings at every battery change. Good luck, William C Biggs, MD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just received this letter from MiniMed regarding leaking Paradigm pumps. >   I called their tech support line this morning for more information. > The gal manning the hotline said that they had no specific information > about the leaks, such as it being a problem with the O-rings.  She > "offered" to sell me a Sport Guard for 1/2 off the regular price!  Can > you believe that!! They advertise this pump to be water resistant for > swimming and bathing, and now they want to sell a bulky, additional cost > item to provide the water resistant functionality.  That’s a kick in the > teeth for a product that sells for about $6k. > Does anyone have any further info regarding this?  I’m sure there will > be a class action suit in the near future…  I wonder if the FDA is > aware of this fiasco? > dave > Here is the letter from MiniMed: > " > Re: Information Regarding Use of Paradigm 511 and 512 Insulin Pumps in Water >   Dear Paradigm Insulin Infusion Pump User: >   As part of Medtronic MiniMed’s ongoing quality improvement process, we > continually monitor product performance in order to provide the best > possible experience for our customers. This summer, as more people are > participating in water activities, we are seeing an increased incidence > of Paradigm pumps turning off due to water entering the pump. In > addition, some pumps are unable to detect the reservoir during priming > as a result of water ingress. We are therefore recommending that you do > not submerge your Paradigm Model 511 or Model 512 insulin pump in water. >   We do realize that pumps get wet from time to time. To that end, you > can feel comfortable that your Paradigm pump can be splashed or briefly > dunked in water. However, we recommend against submerging your Paradigm > pump for swimming and other water activities. Should you inadvertently > submerge your Paradigm pump in water, please dry the pump and verify it > is working properly by selecting "self test" from the pump’s utility > menu. If the pump turns off due to water damage, this will be apparent > to you because the pump’s screen will go blank and the pump will not > respond to button presses. Should this occur, please check your blood > glucose, treat any high blood glucose with an injection, and contact us. >   In addition, since water entering the pump may affect the Paradigm > pump’s ability to detect the reservoir during priming, we are reminding > you to always disconnect the infusion set from your body when priming > your pump. Do not reattach to the pump until the priming function has > been fully completed. As always, refer to your pump’s Instructions for > Use to ensure you are following our guidelines for safe and effective > diabetes care. >   The Paradigm pump is specifically designed to keep users safe by > preventing unintended insulin delivery in the event the pump > malfunctions, including malfunctions due to water entering the pump. In > the event you experience any water-related or other difficulty with your > pump, please call our 24-Hour Help line at 1-800-MINIMED > (1-800-646-4633) for further assistance. Our customer service team is > here to assist you around the clock, every day, throughout the year. >   We understand that many pump users do not submerge their pumps in > water and may not be affected by this concern. We also recognize that > for other users, water tightness is an important feature and this news > may be disappointing. We truly apologize for any difficulty this may > pose, but your diabetes care is our primary concern. >   With a 20-year history in insulin pump therapy, our top priorities are > always customer safety and product quality. We take your trust in us > very seriously and are always committed to keeping you informed of > product developments as they unfold. >   Sincerely, >   Jeffery A. McCaulley >   Vice President and General Manager >   Medtronic MiniMed > "

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In my experience, even if the FDA is aware.. if the other company pays enough money to keep the FDA quite.. theyll shut up.. Just look at the Aspartame coverup.. Check it out here… www.dorway.com www.bradymax.com/nzaa Conni Brady – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just received this letter from MiniMed regarding leaking Paradigm pumps. >   I called their tech support line this morning for more information. > The gal manning the hotline said that they had no specific information > about the leaks, such as it being a problem with the O-rings.  She > "offered" to sell me a Sport Guard for 1/2 off the regular price!  Can > you believe that!! They advertise this pump to be water resistant for > swimming and bathing, and now they want to sell a bulky, additional cost > item to provide the water resistant functionality.  That’s a kick in the > teeth for a product that sells for about $6k. > Does anyone have any further info regarding this?  I’m sure there will > be a class action suit in the near future…  I wonder if the FDA is > aware of this fiasco? > dave > Here is the letter from MiniMed: > " > Re: Information Regarding Use of Paradigm 511 and 512 Insulin Pumps in Water >   Dear Paradigm Insulin Infusion Pump User: >   As part of Medtronic MiniMed’s ongoing quality improvement process, we > continually monitor product performance in order to provide the best > possible experience for our customers. This summer, as more people are > participating in water activities, we are seeing an increased incidence > of Paradigm pumps turning off due to water entering the pump. In > addition, some pumps are unable to detect the reservoir during priming > as a result of water ingress. We are therefore recommending that you do > not submerge your Paradigm Model 511 or Model 512 insulin pump in water. >   We do realize that pumps get wet from time to time. To that end, you > can feel comfortable that your Paradigm pump can be splashed or briefly > dunked in water. However, we recommend against submerging your Paradigm > pump for swimming and other water activities. Should you inadvertently > submerge your Paradigm pump in water, please dry the pump and verify it > is working properly by selecting "self test" from the pump’s utility > menu. If the pump turns off due to water damage, this will be apparent > to you because the pump’s screen will go blank and the pump will not > respond to button presses. Should this occur, please check your blood > glucose, treat any high blood glucose with an injection, and contact us. >   In addition, since water entering the pump may affect the Paradigm > pump’s ability to detect the reservoir during priming, we are reminding > you to always disconnect the infusion set from your body when priming > your pump. Do not reattach to the pump until the priming function has > been fully completed. As always, refer to your pump’s Instructions for > Use to ensure you are following our guidelines for safe and effective > diabetes care. >   The Paradigm pump is specifically designed to keep users safe by > preventing unintended insulin delivery in the event the pump > malfunctions, including malfunctions due to water entering the pump. In > the event you experience any water-related or other difficulty with your > pump, please call our 24-Hour Help line at 1-800-MINIMED > (1-800-646-4633) for further assistance. Our customer service team is > here to assist you around the clock, every day, throughout the year. >   We understand that many pump users do not submerge their pumps in > water and may not be affected by this concern. We also recognize that > for other users, water tightness is an important feature and this news > may be disappointing. We truly apologize for any difficulty this may > pose, but your diabetes care is our primary concern. >   With a 20-year history in insulin pump therapy, our top priorities are > always customer safety and product quality. We take your trust in us > very seriously and are always committed to keeping you informed of > product developments as they unfold. >   Sincerely, >   Jeffery A. McCaulley >   Vice President and General Manager >   Medtronic MiniMed > "

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Conni, http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blasp3.htm Oh yeah, remember when the big oil companies paid GM  billions of dollars to cover up the car that gets 100 mpg ?  Their CEO got bit by a poisonous spider when he was trying on a fur coat. All of these were covered up. Aren’t you glad the internet is a reliable source of information ? Cheers, WCB

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> In my experience, even if the FDA is aware.. if the other company pays > enough money to keep the FDA quite.. theyll shut up.. Just look at the > Aspartame coverup..

Betty Martini, do you *really* think we can’t see you through the holes in that sock puppet? Check out www.snopes.com for a more straightforward and honest discussion of this whackjob’s claims about aspartame.

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Conni you have just quoted 2 of Bad Betty Martini web sites go to www.urbanlegends.com and see the debunking of these web sites further and find that ONE apple contains MORE of the "bad chemicals" that mad betty refers to from aspartame (formaldehyde) Kate

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In my experience, even if the FDA is aware.. if the other company pays > enough money to keep the FDA quite.. theyll shut up.. Just look at the > Aspartame coverup.. > Check it out here… > www.gullsht.com > www.bradysht.com/nzaa > Conni Brady

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For me its a larger issue than merely finding out the water tight integrity is not as advertised! Im hooked up to a device where I need to trust the manufacture with my safety! The workings of the pump, self monitoring is mostly invisible to me! If they failed to do the research about water tightness. Then how have they failed regarding the millions of self tests daily. I dont feel as safe as I did prior to their OOPS, I’M SORRY, letter! I have recommended this pump to people who wish to wear it swimming! I let them down ! Dan

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Yeppers. I remember all of those things and more. Pass me my Diet Coke so when I stop laughing I can take a drink. — Chuck -

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Hello all ! Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… So lets go back to work ! Question for you, Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. So what should i do then ? BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the day. My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no longer Superman !! Thanks once again for your input Richard Dx May 2003 No med, diet exercise only

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Wow thanks a lot for all your suggestion. > I wont be able to sleep with all those mouth watering breakfast > I relax a little too much lately and I have to go back to where I was a > month ago. Tonight was my last "deviation" for awhile. > We went to east side mario tonight….I ate everything that I shouldn’t, and > I’m now ok for 6 months, maybe longer since I feel like sh…t now. My last > reading after 2 hrs was 10.5 mmlo, high enough to give me some remorse… > Oh well we are all human > Good night and thanks once again > Richard

Richard, I was surprised no one in the group proposed my solution.  I also normally have fbg of 6+   Often (but not always darn it) I find I can cut 0.5 to 0.8 off this by having a "wee dram of scotch" before bed.  Others have told me the alcohol "stuns" the liver and interferes with its morning wakeup cheers, Fred

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> this would require that you use real cinnamon which a lot of the stuff >>> on the shelf is not. >>> and it has never been shown to work for all diabetics. >>OK. Be sure that use cinnamon – commonly available at any supermarket. It >>may not work for everyone. >you’re reading correctly.  many products on super market shelves are >not pure cinnamon. > sorry typo there, that should read "you’re "not" reading correctly. >and >it using pure cinnamon does NOT work for everyone. >it may help some, but not all and doubtful anywhere even close to 50%.

Sigh. I wrote cinnamon once and then I wrote cinnamon again. Of course if you don’t buy cinnamon, you won’t get cinnamon. So, if you want to try cinnamon, buy cinnamon. OK? Note that I didn’t detail cinnamon success rate. It does work and it does work for a lot of people. Cinnamon is safe, much more so than many nutritionalists, so cinnamon is worth a try for everyone.

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>> this would require that you use real cinnamon which a lot of the stuff > on the shelf is not. > and it has never been shown to work for all diabetics. >OK. Be sure that use cinnamon – commonly available at any supermarket. It >may not work for everyone.

you’re reading correctly.  many products on super market shelves are not pure cinnamon. and it using pure cinnamon does NOT work for everyone. it may help some, but not all and doubtful anywhere even close to 50%. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> this would require that you use real cinnamon which a lot of the stuff >> on the shelf is not. >> and it has never been shown to work for all diabetics. >OK. Be sure that use cinnamon – commonly available at any supermarket. It >may not work for everyone. >you’re reading correctly.  many products on super market shelves are >not pure cinnamon.

sorry typo there, that should read "you’re "not" reading correctly. >and >it using pure cinnamon does NOT work for everyone. >it may help some, but not all and doubtful anywhere even close to 50%.

Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>>Try a level teaspoon of cinnamon in some *whole* milk yogurt before bed. If >you’re not into yogurt, mixing with something else. Even water works but >it’s not very easy to mix or tasty. I’m planning on a capsule filling >machine which will allow me to simply swallow a couple of 500 MG self-made >caps. You may be pleasantly surprised with your next AM readings. >this would require that you use real cinnamon which a lot of the stuff >on the shelf is not.

The real stuff is available here: http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysceyloncinnamon.html Not that I guarantee it works, but you might as well have a pointer to what’s being talked about. Priscilla

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Hello all ! >> Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months >> doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… >> So lets go back to work ! >> Question for you, >> Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that >> if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. >> So what should i do then ? >> BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the >day. >> My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly >> I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no >> longer Superman !! >Try a level teaspoon of cinnamon in some *whole* milk yogurt before bed. If >you’re not into yogurt, mixing with something else. Even water works but >it’s not very easy to mix or tasty. I’m planning on a capsule filling >machine which will allow me to simply swallow a couple of 500 MG self-made >caps. You may be pleasantly surprised with your next AM readings. > this would require that you use real cinnamon which a lot of the stuff > on the shelf is not. > and it has never been shown to work for all diabetics.

OK. Be sure that use cinnamon – commonly available at any supermarket. It may not work for everyone.

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Wow thanks a lot for all your suggestion. I wont be able to sleep with all those mouth watering breakfast I relax a little too much lately and I have to go back to where I was a month ago. Tonight was my last "deviation" for awhile. We went to east side mario tonight….I ate everything that I shouldn’t, and I’m now ok for 6 months, maybe longer since I feel like sh…t now. My last reading after 2 hrs was 10.5 mmlo, high enough to give me some remorse… Oh well we are all human Good night and thanks once again Richard

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all ! > Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months > doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… > So lets go back to work ! > Question for you, > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > So what should i do then ? > BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the >day. > My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly > I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no > longer Superman !! >Try a level teaspoon of cinnamon in some *whole* milk yogurt before bed. If >you’re not into yogurt, mixing with something else. Even water works but >it’s not very easy to mix or tasty. I’m planning on a capsule filling >machine which will allow me to simply swallow a couple of 500 MG self-made >caps. You may be pleasantly surprised with your next AM readings.

this would require that you use real cinnamon which a lot of the stuff on the shelf is not. and it has never been shown to work for all diabetics. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all ! > Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months > doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… > So lets go back to work ! > Question for you, > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > So what should i do then ? > BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the day. > My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly > I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no > longer Superman !!

Try a level teaspoon of cinnamon in some *whole* milk yogurt before bed. If you’re not into yogurt, mixing with something else. Even water works but it’s not very easy to mix or tasty. I’m planning on a capsule filling machine which will allow me to simply swallow a couple of 500 MG self-made caps. You may be pleasantly surprised with your next AM readings.

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> What am I eating … > Couple of whole grain toast with peanut butter or margarine only, 1/2 > banana, sometime I exchange the bread for all bran original 1/2 cup. > I cannot have too many eggs sausage or bacon since I had an angioplasty 2 > years ago and that I have to take care of my little main lub oil pump !!! > Keeps feeding me with suggestion !!

You might try replacing the all-bran with "all-bran buds".  I found that the latter did not spike my blood glucose levels nearly as quickly as the former in my particular body.  Also bananas are a fast digesting carbohydrate unless they are pretty well too green to eat.  Maybe replace the half banana with a small handful of some kind of nut.  The whole grain toast is best avoided since whole grain flour is a fast digesting carbohydrate as well. All in all the meal you describe is quite loaded with refined and quickly digested carbohydrates of the kind that promote high blood glucose spikes shortly after eating.  That promotes high triglycerides and a higher risk of heart trouble as well as making the diabetes worse. I think you might well be better off with the sausage or the egg in place of some of the fast digesting carbohydrates.

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Richard, bananas are hard to do for most diabetics.  What is the amount of cereal you are eating,  Are you eating a serving or a big bowl. Portion control is vfery important for my control. I eat turkey ham egg beaters and fat free cheese to be heart smart. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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>Richard, Eggs and cheese and sausage or bacon have no carbs to speak of. >Might not be too heart healthy but cereal and toast, are  not for you, >Try eating half the portion you are eating now. >Loretta

Hi Richard. I agree with Loretta. Actually, when I told my doc I had bacon and egg for breakfast he didn’t mind at all because my A1c, BP and weight were all going down – and the cholesterol and TGs didn’t go up.  So whether it’s bad for the heart depends on your situation. In my case I don’t get dawn effect for FBG but a single slice of toast or a tablespoon of cereal puts my breakfast post-prandials way up. Some sample breakfasts to give you ideas: 1. One well-drained rasher of bacon and one egg fried on a smear of canola oil in a non-stick pan. 2. Salmon patties made from 50g tinned salmon, small quantities of chopped onion/garlic/peppers/cheese to taste mixed with 1/4 cup mashed potato. Test if you try this – in my case for some reason the carb in the potato has less effect in this mix. I don’t know why. You may be different. 3. Stuffed mushrooms. A couple of large mushrooms filled with home-made napoli sauce (tomato, onion, garlic, herbs; add minced meat for bolognese), covered with grated cheese and baked in the oven. 4. Single-egg omelette, with choices of fillings – sauteed onions or mushrooms or chopped ham etc, with a little shredded cheese. 5. Scrambled egg, similar. 6. A small steak, with or without egg. My only breakfast carb is the milk in my coffee, which I cannot give up. Bon appetit. Cheers – Alan

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When I get up I have a Lite & Fit Smoothie (Thanx Loretta!) or V8 to wash down meds. Plus coffee. Later I have a Chocolate Rice Cake with PB, some fruit 1/2 cup with SF Jello. That does me until snack time. Lately I’ve added spray whipped topping. I read the label at the store. Not bad for canned air! — t2_lurking geabbottATabbottandabbottDOTcom Do not mail to t2_lurking (auto-delete)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Richard, Eggs and cheese and sausage or bacon have no carbs to speak of. > Might not be too heart healthy but cereal and toast, are  not for you, > Try eating half the portion you are eating now. > Loretta > What am I eating … > Couple of whole grain toast with peanut butter or margarine only, 1/2 > banana, sometime I exchange the bread for all bran original 1/2 cup. > I cannot have too many eggs sausage or bacon since I had an angioplasty 2 > years ago and that I have to take care of my little main lub oil pump !!! > Keeps feeding me with suggestion !! > Richard

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Maybe an omelet made with 3 or 4 egg whites and a bit of low fat cheese? Eggbeaters work well too with some low carb veggies stirred in, or low fat cottage cheese or  tofu scrambled in too if you can eat tofu. They have turkey sausage which is pretty low fat and tasty too. Good luck. — Cheri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >What am I eating … >Couple of whole grain toast with peanut butter or margarine only, 1/2 >banana, sometime I exchange the bread for all bran original 1/2 cup. >I cannot have too many eggs sausage or bacon since I had an angioplasty 2 >years ago and that I have to take care of my little main lub oil pump !!! >Keeps feeding me with suggestion !! >Richard

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: : Thanks for the suggestion Colleen , I’ve already tried the lunch before bed : but that doesn’t seems to work with me : : No carb for breakfast !!!!!! What am I going to eat ??? 44 years of toast : and cereal, thats going to be hard to change ) : : Take care : for breakfast i have an egg, one sausage patty and a slice of American cheese on the weekdays.  on the weekend i’ll have a spoon of grits or some of the hashbrown potatoes i fix for the wife…

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: : : : Thanks for the suggestion Colleen , I’ve already tried the lunch before : bed : : but that doesn’t seems to work with me : : : : No carb for breakfast !!!!!! What am I going to eat ??? 44 years of toast : : and cereal, thats going to be hard to change ) : : : : Take care : : : : for breakfast i have an egg, one sausage patty and a slice of American : cheese on the weekdays.  on the weekend i’ll have a spoon of grits or some : of the hashbrown potatoes i fix for the wife… : should have said "add" a spoon of grits or some of the hashbrown potatoes to the egg and bacon or sausage:

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> Richard, Eggs and cheese and sausage or bacon have no carbs to speak of. > Might not be too heart healthy but cereal and toast, are  not for you, > Try eating half the portion you are eating now. > Loretta

What am I eating … Couple of whole grain toast with peanut butter or margarine only, 1/2 banana, sometime I exchange the bread for all bran original 1/2 cup. I cannot have too many eggs sausage or bacon since I had an angioplasty 2 years ago and that I have to take care of my little main lub oil pump !!! Keeps feeding me with suggestion !! Richard

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Richard, Eggs and cheese and sausage or bacon have no carbs to speak of. Might not be too heart healthy but cereal and toast, are  not for you, Try eating half the portion you are eating now. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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Richard, what are you eating for breakfast,  Most probably if you eat only protein your numbers will go down. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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> Question for you, > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > So what should i do then ?

Eat breakfast anyway.  Your body is raising your blood sugar early in the morning because, to perhaps oversimplify,  it "thinks" you are starving.  If you avoid breakfast your body will still "think" you are starving and keep the glucose levels up until the liver runs out of available glucose reserves, at which time you will "bonk" completely and just run right out of energy.  If you eat it will stop the starvation emergency routines and and go back to dealing with digesting and normal non starvation processes.  Then you will have energy available for the whole day. But lest I be misunderstood, "eat breakfast" doesn’t mean "eat a huge big breakfast".  :-)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all ! > Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months > doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… > So lets go back to work ! > Question for you, > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > So what should i do then ? > BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the day. > My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly > I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no > longer Superman !! > Thanks once again for your input

Eat a low carb breakfast. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

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eggs, cheese, nuts, I have a slice of whole grain low carb bread some peanut butter a few berries. I eat this nearly every morning.  It has about 15 grams of carb.  If I’m running high then I try for foods with no carb.  Cereal is poison for many of us in the morning.  The fewer carbs the better for most. — c website  http://www.plazaearth.com/philo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The high morning numbers are dawn phenomena aka a liver dump.  Your liver > pumps extra glucose for you to start the day.  Some people have a light > snack before bed and it seems to help.  If you are having high morning > readings you need to cut way back on the carbs for breakfast.  Sometimes > people need to have no carbs at all. > — > c > website  http://www.plazaearth.com/philo > > Hello all ! > > Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months > > doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… > > So lets go back to work ! > > Question for you, > > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious > that > > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > > So what should i do then ? > > BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the > day. > > My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly > > I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no > > longer Superman !! > > Thanks once again for your input > > Richard > > Dx May 2003 > > No med, diet exercise only > Thanks for the suggestion Colleen , I’ve already tried the lunch before bed > but that doesn’t seems to work with me > No carb for breakfast !!!!!! What am I going to eat ??? 44 years of toast > and cereal, thats going to be hard to change ) > Take care

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The high morning numbers are dawn phenomena aka a liver dump.  Your liver pumps extra glucose for you to start the day.  Some people have a light snack before bed and it seems to help.  If you are having high morning readings you need to cut way back on the carbs for breakfast.  Sometimes people need to have no carbs at all. — c website  http://www.plazaearth.com/philo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all ! > Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months > doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… > So lets go back to work ! > Question for you, > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > So what should i do then ? > BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the day. > My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly > I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no > longer Superman !! > Thanks once again for your input > Richard > Dx May 2003 > No med, diet exercise only

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The high morning numbers are dawn phenomena aka a liver dump.  Your liver > pumps extra glucose for you to start the day.  Some people have a light > snack before bed and it seems to help.  If you are having high morning > readings you need to cut way back on the carbs for breakfast.  Sometimes > people need to have no carbs at all. > — > c > website  http://www.plazaearth.com/philo > Hello all ! > Like many others, I realised that acheiving good number for a few months > doesn’t make you a non-diabetic again… > So lets go back to work ! > Question for you, > Fasting reading in the mornings are between 6.2 and 7.5 . Its obvious that > if I eat my breakfast that I am going to be too high. > So what should i do then ? > BTW I have almost no problem with all the other reading throughout the > day. > My last hac1(spelling?) was good 5.9 if I can remember correctly > I’ll have to come back here more often now that I realised that I am no > longer Superman !! > Thanks once again for your input > Richard > Dx May 2003 > No med, diet exercise only

Thanks for the suggestion Colleen , I’ve already tried the lunch before bed but that doesn’t seems to work with me No carb for breakfast !!!!!! What am I going to eat ??? 44 years of toast and cereal, thats going to be hard to change ) Take care

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This was in the newspaper this morning and I’m sure many of you have seen it, but just in case you haven’t. A high school senior charged with modifying a version fo the Internet worm that crippled computer networks worldwide said the government has exaggerated its case against him, and disputed media coverage that portrayed him as a computer-savvy loner. "I have a very supportive close group of friends. I’m not reckless, I don’t do drugs, smoke or drink. This is the first time I haver had a run in with the law. It’s hurtful to see the accounts of me. I’m not depressed, embarrassed about my weight, or a misfit," Jeffrey Parson said in a transcript posted on MSNBC’s Web site. UNBELIEVABLE!!! — Cheri

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Cheri , this is the first time he got caught doing something illegal. LOL Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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Yep, and the boy obviously has a skewed idea of what the "All American Boy" is. LOL — Cheri

Cheri , this is the first time he got caught doing something illegal. LOL Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This was in the newspaper this morning and I’m sure many of you have > seen it, but just in case you haven’t. > A high school senior charged with modifying a version fo the Internet > worm that crippled computer networks worldwide said the government has > exaggerated its case against him, and disputed media coverage that > portrayed him as a computer-savvy loner. > "I have a very supportive close group of friends. I’m not reckless, I > don’t do drugs, smoke or drink. This is the first time I haver had a run > in with the law. It’s hurtful to see the accounts of me. I’m not > depressed, embarrassed about my weight, or a misfit," Jeffrey Parson > said in a transcript posted on MSNBC’s Web site. > UNBELIEVABLE!!! > — > Cheri

Ya well, Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy only had ONE run-in with the law too! I saw his parents on Good Day America yesterday whining about how this kid was a victim.  GIMME A BREAK!!!!  I hope they make an example out this kid. It’s about time some of these internet terrorists get locked up for a long long time.  Yes, I consider them terrorists when they can shut down multi-million dollars businesses and possibly governments with their so-called fun and games.  Lock them up and throw away the key!!!!  Victim my a**!!!!! -stepping down off my soapbox now

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I have absoultely NO PITTY for BAD-HACKERS !!! Good " Hackers " write programs that HELP PEOPLE , not Damage them !!! tim

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> I have absoultely NO PITTY for BAD-HACKERS !!! > Good " Hackers " write programs that HELP PEOPLE , not Damage them !!! > tim

I’ll second that!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->This was in the newspaper this morning and I’m sure many of you have >seen it, but just in case you haven’t. >A high school senior charged with modifying a version fo the Internet >worm that crippled computer networks worldwide said the government has >exaggerated its case against him, and disputed media coverage that >portrayed him as a computer-savvy loner. >"I have a very supportive close group of friends. I’m not reckless, I >don’t do drugs, smoke or drink. This is the first time I haver had a run >in with the law. It’s hurtful to see the accounts of me. I’m not >depressed, embarrassed about my weight, or a misfit," Jeffrey Parson >said in a transcript posted on MSNBC’s Web site. >UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Not very unbelievable.  He may NOT be depressed or embarrassed about his weight.  And he may lack the social consciousness to see himself as a misfit or to regard anything he’s done as wrong. Bill Clinton’s "I did not have sex with that woman" was a LOT more unbelievable, IMNSHO. ^_^ FW

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Yes, the fact that he doesn’t see himself as any of those things is what’s so unbelievable. As far as BC goes I’ve never believed anything he said and I knew he was lying then too. — Cheri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Not very unbelievable.  He may NOT be depressed or embarrassed >about his weight.  And he may lack the social consciousness to >see himself as a misfit or to regard anything he’s done as wrong. >Bill Clinton’s "I did not have sex with that woman" was a LOT >more unbelievable, IMNSHO. >^_^ >FW

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>Yes, the fact that he doesn’t see himself as any of those things is >what’s so unbelievable. As far as BC goes I’ve never believed anything >he said and I knew he was lying then too.

I still laugh over Clinton’s lying and everyone playing so shocked when he lied about the sex.  He lied openly during is campaign and was still elected.  Never inhaled, riiigghhhtttt. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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>> I have absoultely NO PITTY for BAD-HACKERS !!! > Good " Hackers " write programs that HELP PEOPLE , not Damage them !!! > tim >I’ll second that!

Joe: I think you may want to add OT to your posts.. to send me email Remove Dot add . to send me email

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: I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more : carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat : at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had : the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got : up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have : expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, : apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit : here until a couple hours after eating. : Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it : just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up : and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120.   I absolutely find the smae result.  Very littl e motion can make a big improvement in my pp bgs.  THe computed keeps me sitting far to still.   When I watch TV, I get up an wnder about during th ecommercials or borin gpars of the program or just keep moving around.  The computer keeps me much too still.  Sometimes, if I remember, I do a small set of exercises right after the meal and then go to the computer.  Say 10-12 stair pushups, or a few trips up and down th e stairs or puting the laundry in the asher before settling down. Wendy

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> G’day G’day Janet, >   How’s the body building going?

Not all that well, thanks for asking! I’m trying to get back into it. I’ve found the muscle tissue has lasted, however, and my insulin resistance has remained much improved – as long as I use them

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This post not CC’d by email >My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. >Janet

G’day G’day Janet,   How’s the body building going? Great to see you back. Best wishes, — Quentin Grady       ^  ^  / New Zealand,       >#,#< [                     / /     "… and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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My after dinner walk is a must.  When I don’t take it my meter (and my body) knows the difference. — c website  http://www.plazaearth.com/philo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more > carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat > at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had > the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got > up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have > expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, > apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit > here until a couple hours after eating. > Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it > just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up > and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. > My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. > Janet

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more >carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat >at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had >the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got >up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have >expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, >apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit >here until a couple hours after eating. >Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it >just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up >and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. >My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. >Janet

I suggest you get some form of exercise machine that has a book rest. Position it to hold your keyboard and mouse and exercise while playing online. seriously though, what you experienced is very common.  Even for those of us who take insulin. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org  In tribute to the United States of America and the State  of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and  terrorism.

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Inactivity makes a big differance.  Do a little exercise after eating. Walking is my favorite thing to do. Ira t2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve absolutely noticed the difference. It made me laugh at the time when I > compared journal entries. Does the phrase "evening or after dinner > constitutional" ring a bell. Once again the elder wisdom comes into play for > a different but similar reason. Even the smallest thing. Sometime I’m going > to try just falling asleep and see if that’s better for you than sitting in > front of the computer. > — > t2_lurking > geabbottATabbottandabbottDOTcom > Do not mail to t2_lurking (auto-delete) > I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more > carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat > at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had > the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got > up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have > expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, > apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit > here until a couple hours after eating. > Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it > just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up > and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. > My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. > Janet

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Janet, It is not the computer. It is the time you do some exercise after the BG peak , at least for me. The peak occurs at 30 -40 min after the first bite, if you are a T2, not on meds and eat about 15-20 g of carb per meal. Moderate exercise ( walking for 20 minutes) at this  time uses up glucose and BG  drops quickly to pre-meal levels. You could verify this, if so inclined, by eating two identical meals at two different days, with and without exercise and measure every 15 min starting at first bite. It is best to plot the results and you could obtain several important, personal diabetes markers. The most important being the carb sensitivity and the effect of exercise. You will read a lot on how different everybody is, but your own data should be very consistent if you know how much carb you are eating. You seem to already observed this. If you plot the data, you can find the true peak fairly accurately and measure the spike ( Peak BG – BG at first bite). If you divide the spike by the carb eaten you get your very own sensitivity  to carb, when eating a mixed GI meal. For you, with an A1c of 5.4, your sensitivity should be around 2.0 mg/dl per g of carb. Good luck Fred Henzi T2, 60 g carb per day for 34 month, no meds.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more > carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat > at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had > the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got > up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have > expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, > apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit > here until a couple hours after eating. > Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it > just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up > and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. > My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. > Janet

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> I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more > carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat > at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had > the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got > up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have > expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, > apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit > here until a couple hours after eating. > Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it > just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up > and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. > My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise.

When I am sitting at the computer, I am never just sitting here for long.  I keep my weights right next to the computer.  I make myself stop every once in a while and use the weights.  That works for me. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

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I’ve absolutely noticed the difference. It made me laugh at the time when I compared journal entries. Does the phrase "evening or after dinner constitutional" ring a bell. Once again the elder wisdom comes into play for a different but similar reason. Even the smallest thing. Sometime I’m going to try just falling asleep and see if that’s better for you than sitting in front of the computer. — t2_lurking geabbottATabbottandabbottDOTcom Do not mail to t2_lurking (auto-delete)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more > carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat > at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had > the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got > up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have > expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, > apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit > here until a couple hours after eating. > Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it > just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up > and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. > My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. > Janet

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I had a stir fry and thoughtlessly mixed in a bit of brown rice, more carbs than I usually eat. I ate half and put half in the fridge. I sat at the computer for on hour and tested at 205. The next night I had the other half and sat in front of TV for an hour. I fidgeted, I got up once or twice. I tested in an hour at 150, about what I would have expected. This isn’t an anomoly for me. I’m a slow learner, apparently. The computer has spiked me several times. I just can’t sit here until a couple hours after eating. Do others see this big a difference from activity levels, or is it just me? If I’d eaten the same meal and then done a couple trips up and down the stairs after 30 minutes, I’d test at about 120. My latest HbA1C was 5.4 and I control with diet and exercise. Janet

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